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Auto loans aren’t financing anymore — they’re extraction
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Debt is the real product, and Americans are the raw material.
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This isn’t a loan — it’s a leash.
Grant here. Every few months, something surfaces that captures the entire American economy in one depressing snapshot. Let’s break it down.
This post on X and subsequent video outlines this predicament flawlessly: a guy buys a $111,916 truck, signs on the dotted line, and suddenly realizes he didn’t purchase a vehicle, but instead he purchased 84 months of financial captivity. By the time he’s done paying, the total hits $159,464. Same truck. No upgrades. No special perks. Just $47,548 evaporated into the financing abyss.
And this isn’t just some quirky outlier. It’s the new normal, and it exposes something deeper and uglier about the economy that most Americans are stuck inside: a system where financing replaces affordability, and debt becomes the default pathway to participate in everyday life.
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An American finances a $111,916 truck and pays $1,898 a month.
After 84 payments, the total hits $159,464 — for the SAME truck.
He pays $47,548 EXTRA.
This isn’t “financing” — it’s legalized robbery. pic.twitter.com/ECIEPAsLD3
— MatrixMysteries (@MatrixMysteries) November 23, 2025
Now, of course, buying a truck at over $111k is well above the average price for a vehicle, but regardless of the price tag, financing terms are still outrageous and are forcing many Americans deeper and deeper into debt.
The truth is, auto financing didn’t just get more expensive — it's now mutated into something unrecognizable. Edmunds’ latest data shows that the old 60-month auto loan is basically dead, and Americans are now being pushed into 72-, 84-, and even 96-month contracts just to afford the monthly payment on a basic vehicle.
In the second quarter of 2025 alone, over 22% of all new-car loans stretched to 84 months, and nearly 1 in 5 new-car buyers were locked into monthly payments over $1,000. Edmunds calls it a "historic shift," while the rest of us call it what it is: the normalization of debt servitude dressed up as “consumer choice.”
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Nearly 20% of new-car shoppers have agreed to monthly payments of $1,000 or more in the second quarter of this year (between April and June), according to Edmunds' sales data. More borrowers — exceeding 22% — are opting for 84-month loans, which nearly doubled from six years ago. Meanwhile, zero percent car loans have shrunk to less than 1%. Shoppers are making smaller down payments, and interest rates remain historically high at around 7%.
This affordability crunch translates to another record high for the average amount financed on a new car loan: $43,218 in October 2025, up from $41,362 in the previous year.
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Here's a breakdown of the three key factors contributing to this potential storm for borrowers.
- Longer loans are more expensive:Â In Q2, the average financed cost of a new car on a 60-month loan was $38,205, up from $26,738 a decade ago. Those who took out 84-month loan terms financed even more, with an average of $50,959 (up from $36,764), according to Edmunds data.
- Shoppers want larger and more luxurious vehicles,and they’re willing to pay more later for the privilege of now. For example, the difference between the base price of a vehicle and the higher trim model that shoppers actually bought was a difference of about $11,500 — 33% over the vehicle's starting price.
- Â The longer the loan term is, the smaller the down payment a person is likely to make:Â In the 60-month loan example above, the average down payment was about $10,326. Compare that to the average of $3,660 on an 84-month loan.
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Six years ago, in the second quarter of 2019, the percentage of loans with monthly payments exceeding $1,000 was 4.3%. Now it's 19.3%. Meanwhile, the price of a full-size luxury SUV has not even come close to quadrupling.
But the only issue here isn't just bloated financing, but in general people aren't able to make these payments, period.
According to Axios, subprime auto loan delinquencies hit 6.6% in January 2025. This is the highest level in decades, and it really shows just how many Americans are buckling under the weight of auto-loan debt.
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Americans are missing their car payments at the highest rate in decades, according to Fitch Ratings data.Why it matters: Car costs, including loans and insurance, have soared in an economy where consumers are showing mounting signs of stress.By the numbers: 6.6% of of subprime auto borrowers were at least 60 days past due on their loans as of January 2025.
- This is the highest level since the agency began collecting data. The fall and winter of 2024 saw the next highest subprime delinquency rates.
- Prime borrower scores are faring better than subprime, with 0.39% 60-day delinquencies in January 2025, up from 0.35% in January 2024.
Threat level: "Subprime auto loans face a deteriorating outlook for 2025," a Fitch report said.Driving the news: Multiple factors have increased the cost of car ownership, per Cox Automotive executive analyst Erin Keating, Axios' Joann Muller reports.
- Vehicle prices are higher, averaging just under $50,000, and high loan rates (over 9% for new cars and almost 14% on used cars) are translating to steep monthly payments.
- Plus, car insurance rates are up 19% year over year, while repair and maintenance costs have risen 33% since 2020.
DEBRIEFING
The post here on the $159,000 truck loan wasn’t just a shocking revelation — it was an X-ray of a system that’s quietly shifting from “transportation” to financial exploitation. And what that man was holding in his hand wasn’t just a contract. It was a trap disguised as a truck.
Auto lenders know exactly what they’re doing when they stretch loans to 84, 96, even 120 months. It keeps monthly payments artificially low while total costs explode. They also know buyers have no real alternatives. You need a car to get to work, to get your kids to school, and to survive in a country built around highways. That dependence is leverage, and lenders are using it to their full advantage. Full stop.
Edmunds’ data shows that borrowers aren’t just flirting with negative equity, but they’re plunging straight into it. People are trading in cars worth $7,000 less than what they owe, rolling that deficit into the next massive loan, and walking out with even more debt on top of soaring interest rates. In all honesty, you don’t dig your way out of that. You just sink further and further.
We’ve crossed into a new era where the vehicle sitting in your driveway isn’t proof of ownership — it’s proof of entrapment.
NOW YOU KNOW
We’re not buying cars anymore... we’re buying debt with wheels.
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I agree that these car prices, rates and fees are high. If you have bad credit already you should just stick with a slightly used car and add to the payment each month. The local credit union is offering an 84 month loan at 5.75% to qualified borrowers. Still not a bargain, but maybe you have a business and deduct some of the interest. And you can, and should, pay additional principal each and every month. And weather new or used by a quality car that you can pay off and drive forever.
deducting the interest does not make up but for a tiny percentage of the expense.
does not alleviate the problem at all.
Sorry, NO
People who buy cars like this aren’t doing it because they’re trying to save money. They do it because they allow themselves to be mesmerized by the shiny new thing. They use the “my old car is unreliable, it costs too much to fix” trope to convince themselves (and/or their significant other) of the BRILLIANCE of living a life of indebtedness and servitude. So they keep making their $1,200 car payment (ha ha ha) and console themselves with the new car smell. Meanwhile, people like me keep offering them $1,000 more than the dealer is offering on their trade… Life is good.
So you are also part of the problem. Good to know.
Labor unions are to blame.
Why would you spend that much money on a pickup truck? Just get a used one. Stop being a consumerist.